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Very nice Karl.  I believe it was 2005 when you first showed me that car. I thought it looked great then.



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Core support in place, hoses clear, detailing wiring and misc.

Last picture is Blue Elky frame, exhaust just slip fit, needs cutting, adjusting and welding.

Waiting on some line clips.

Thinking Ron will have everything for core support on White car by the end of next weekend.

Might have to fuel it, carb it, set spark plug gaps, add coolant and fire.

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Carb is on, core support is mostly loaded.

Radiator has pin hole from storage, was new core.

A/C condenser restored.

Will get radiator fixed, and start adding coolants and trans fluid.

Getting closer.

 



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That stinks the rad got a pin hole..rolleyes

Have Ron leave the headlight "buckets" a tad loose until final fit of grille and bezels. I found it's easier to get all those pieces lined up and then snug the bucket bolts.

Any attempt at brake fluid yet ? Hoping the stainless line mods don't leak.

LOVE that air cleaner. I need about 4 of those...laughing



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Not even sure what that air cleaner was really for.
Liked the look. I think the real L-79 ones were centered on the sides.

No brake fluid yet.
My good friend Roger D. is a fan of Dot 5 synthetic.
We still need to order some.
The positives are it does NOT absorb moisture like regular fluid and will NOT eat paint.
Particularly for our low use vehicles the synthetic is the best option in his opinion.

He feels the same way about oxygenated fuel.
Absorbs moisture = rusty fuel tanks, sludge in fuel system.
He runs premium in every old vehicle, the tractors, (plural) and all outdoor equipment he owns.
I do the same.

Agree on slip fitting all those related pieces, makes for easier installation of all related parts.
He is getting a little "Cwazy" and brush touching bolt heads though.

Thanks for the comments!
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Have I missed your updates on the "upper building" ??





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I haven't done a lot with the "shop" upgrades lately, other projects take my time, i.e., we gave away a hot tub that was recessed IN the deck floor. I rebuilt the missing beam and joists a couple weekends back and just got the replacement Trex boards Tuesday.

Wed, left at 4 am for VA to retrieve the '66. Got home at 7:30 this morning... 2,400 miles in 52 hours.

Have a new door for the attached garage to put in on Sunday.. etc., etc. No shortage of "fun" around here...whew

Ron is doing a great job on the Camino, but, yeah, sounds like he is getting a little carried away with detail now...thumbsup



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"Cwazy" Ron is moving right along.

Will still play with shroud clearance, however, really close to fluids and firing.

Lamps are brand new T3s

The correct early style.

Also getting an SS style blacked out grille for contrast.

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Is the fuel filter placement temporary ? Seems it could cause vapor lock and boil over, being on the thermo housing ?

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Looks like the front fuel bowl should be changed to the other design; but that bowl is hard to find.  The threads are usually stripped but there is a guy o n TC that rebuilds those hollers from 66 with a heli coil installed in the front fuel bowls inlet.

Thats the front fuel bowl I plan to use on a holley from 66 on the SB slated for the 66 convertible. Here’s a photo of the carb.  No issues with vapor lock on my 66 SS for 15 yrs now same design.

 

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It has add on filter or valve of some sort.
Bowl has a breather or relief valve of some sort too.
See photo.

The carb on there now is the one that came off vehicle, had mickey mouse fuel lines, filter was lower.

It is rebuilt and ready to go, will chance it for now.




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3/8 ni/cop brake line. You could make a nice 180° bend and eliminate much of the hose, while bringing the filter away from the housing a little...dunno

Just a slight beginning of a flare on the end will prevent the hose from slipping off.



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thumbsupA/c hoses installed.
Don't comment on SS 386 emblem, not my decision.dunno

 

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Hoses are not a cosmetic match, but are designed for 134A, drier tooo.

Caught Ron admiring his work!thumbsup

 



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Blue Elky going from Rotisserie to Body Cart.
Please note "stylin" new shoes on cart.
OWL or RWL sidewalls were not available.

 

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Blue car to Treasure Chest, Roto to Burnsville.

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Blue Car relocated and ready to be tucked in at the Treasure Chest.
Chassis and Shell are now within 15 feet of each other,beers

 

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Ron playing with bumper fits on white car.

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Next: Blue car off trailer, work on Chassis plumbing, and Blue Body.

White car: Pull doors, drill for power window wiring, assemble doors and final fit.

Once doors are final fitted, Dash is mostly done, front Sheetmetal can be installed.

Get column in and dash wiring complete.

Continue prepping for firing motor and breaking in Cam.

 

We actually have a PLAN!

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PROGRESS !!

Did the El Camino's not have the argent silver at the top of the front valance ??

He needs to paint the headlight bezel extensions to match the grille for an original SS appearance...stirpot



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Yup on the silver.
Both Custom models and 300 Deluxe were combo lower face was body color and upper argent.
Color split was underneath where the moulding would be on a Custom/Malibu/SS.


Ron chose to white it out, at least he was OK with chrome bumpers.

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I will share with him your concern abut making aftermarket parts match.cenuniv

It would look better. tiphat

Thanks for your interest,

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Karl. Is that body cart something that was purchased or did you make it?



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Bought it from a friend.
He built a couple of them.
It was originally used for truck cabs.
Also adjustable for length and width.

I have used it under both ElCaminos.
Mitch also used it under his Chevelle.
The bar at front mounts was added.
It stiffens structure and is preset for front body mount width.

Only had to make one minor adjustment for length, because Greg (original builder) just replaced all axel stubs, freed up steering and lubed everything up.
I chased down the fresh wheels and tires, he made everything work.

Remember, I am a BS'er not a Technician or a fabricator.
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First picture is an example of the two color lower front grille filler.

Made some major switches on Sunday. White G-body Elky up on hoist waiting for Pypes exhaust. (ordered today)

Pulled the Green Malibu 4dr. Hardtop car down for some winter work.

Blue Elky Roller frame and shell cuddled up waiting for some attention.

White Elky turned around closer to firing and more fitting and assembly.

Ron and Scot are the major drivers on this, I just try to stay out of the way.

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this is suppose to be the correct fuel line for the a corvette 300HP or  350HP, 327 engine for 1966 Or 1967, or 67 chevelle, the L79 not available in 66 chevelle, holley carb list 3367.  Bacicaly the same carb for chevelle carbs from 66 for 327 with holley or L34 or L35 with holley.  This is the front fuel bowl.  Thought you might be interested as this is what I plan on  using.  For some reason I can’t seem to load the photo.

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Ron has been busy.
He and I fitted doors and tailgate. (pain to do)
He got all holes drilled for power window wiring.
Boots and wiring are installed and bedded in sealer.
He loaded trim, handles and mirrors on both doors.
By the time the glass is installed, we will have parted out 5-6 doors for misc. glass , power regulators, vent frames and hardware.
Remember we started with a complete car, nothing missing.
Just sorting through 15+ years of acquiring parts and choosing the best components.
Adding rally cluster, knee knocker tach, power windows, tinted glass.
Changing interior to Black as he found a really nice dash pad, will end up using Malibu Door trim panels. (PUI)
Still sorting and cleaning for Big Block Elky and the 4 door Malibu hardtop.
This car will also get a black split bench seat, with armrest from a 66 Pontiac.
The Multi-color doors shown will be fully stripped and scrapped.
Some might be usable, however, too crusty for us to save anymore.

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Yes he will be detailing bolt heads prior to installing and fitting fenders.

Focusing on door assembling and Dash wiring.

Soooo, close to firing motor.

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You do some really nice work there!
Looking forward to seeing the completion.

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Still cleaning and prepping parts and fasteners.
The power window motors I had dragged back from Pennsylvania, at least 12 years ago, were really crusty.
Had some U-Pull spares from a 73 Buick Lesabre.
Snatched them at least 10 years ago.
Ron restored and transferred motors to cleaned up regulators.
Will have strip Caulk tomorrow so he can bed the vent windows, install glass and regulators.
Should be fun to see then go up and down. (we hope)

The other picture is a rust remover he used on small parts, works really, really well.

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Nice!
looks like you are a fan of the evaporust?

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I've been reading about that and I will have to try it, when I get back to a restoration project.

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I have been using it for several years. It is the best I have used.

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Larry Lucast wrote:

I have been using it for several years. It is the best I have used.


 Will have to get some and try it outthumbsup



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Ron sure is, he was very pleased with results.

Here are a couple of pictures of the window motors we did NOT use. (crusty things)

Still glad I bought the ElCamino doors as they had tinted glass and the power regulators are definitely different.


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I'm thinking the solution my hoods will be soaked in is something very similar to evaporust. Sounds like it anyway.

Tractor Supply has it in 1 gallon containers and 5 gallon pails. I typed j ug s the first time and the editor **** it out...rolleyes



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All door glass is in, even goes up and down.

Now has factory tinted, original glass from several donor doors.

Parts doors came from, Waco Texas (green), Eastern Pennsylvania (blue) and our friend Brett Jensen in Fergus Falls, Mn. (gold)

Those door pictures were in previous post. As stated before 5 different doors just for glass, regulators, hardware, plus that old Buick from U-Pull R Parts for motors.

Ron was able to soften vent glass seals so they are original (thanks WD-40)

For 50 plus year old salvage glass and hardware, it came out fantastic.

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Looks great.
Care to elaborate on the WD-40 trick with the seals? Sounds like it could come in handy.

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I use WD-40 a lot.
It is a natural lubricant that is not really oily.
Displaces water, absorbs into rubber like a hand lotion.
WD does soak in and soften most dried out rubber or plastic.
Kind of a not too greasy lube.
Helps to gently clean grease off your hands too.

I will spray most old rubber or plastic before I try and remove, or install, plugs, seals, and weatherstrip are a good example.
Think of it as a lotion for non metallic parts.
Also makes a good slip fit lubricant.
Soap and glass cleaner also work well for slip/tension fitting.

For softening and cleaning, just spray on and forget about part for a day or two.
50 to 60% of the time it will "freshen" the rubber enough to save and reuse.

We had the luxury of multiple vent assemblies to choose from, Ron "cherry" picked the best ones.
Pretty sure one of the ones he reconditioned came out of a 4 door sedan door from Waco Texas, a dry, baked vehicle.

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Thanks for the WD-40 explanation!

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Rustproof and undercoat Smugglers box and underside of cover. Trim panels on doors, hinges touched up, new stainless/chrome strikers, and refreshed steering column.

Ron moving right along, Dash next.



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Very nice!

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Yes, very nice!

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It is extremely nice, but is he going to want to drive it after all this detail ?



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Thanks!
It is not a "Show" Car.

Call it: "Sort-of-a-Garage-Queen"

His wife (my Daughter) suggested it would be fun to take grocery shopping.
IMMRDIATE VETO! (By Ron)

My guess is it will be like BISKWIK, which has only been wet three (3) times since I acquired it.
Once right after I brought it home, once after redone and assembled, and it did get showered upon after a cruise night run.
First two were intentional washes, last was just some light drippage, did not even run wipers, wiped down when in garage.

The rust proofing is overkill, however, it will still go to Ziebart to pull frame rails and balance of 1/4 panels.
Ron and Charla have four kids between them, one is a "Car Guy" Bodyman.
Hopefully there should be something left of it when they pass it down.
Biskwik got a similar Corrosion Application approach, as will Big Block ElCamino.

It is fun to see his enthusiasm and attention to detail, I tease him, but truly respect his efforts and process.
Hope he continues, as he has expressed an interest in going after the Blue Elky next.beers

He is also LUSTING after Basket Case Biscayne.

Good to be US! We have a place and the inventory to have a lot of fun.

(Teaser) Also will be starting two more threads, one about a 1956 Bel Air project in the works and Scots' Green 66 Sport Sedan.

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Good that you have some family that likes the old cars and will provide good homes for them eventually.
In the mean time... looking forward especially to seeing the 56 build to recall the car I drove at 16.

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"one is a "Car Guy" Bodyman"
Do I see a possible bodyman to do the finish work on my Camaro, when I have all the sheetmetal work done ???? notworthy
Brought all the panels home from storage last week and plan to get back on that, long delayed, project in the next week.



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He only graduated a couple of years ago.
3-5 years away from doing finish work at the level you require.
Needs more experience, detail and problem solving.
He is currently paired up with a high production tech.
Not sure if that is good or bad.

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My first real car, that actually ran, was a 1956 Bel Air post car.
Was hit in the side.
Never got fully repaired, beat the daylights out of it.doh
Parted it out.
Still have the New 1/4 panel that was halfway installed.
Hacked it off with a cold chisel and a claw hammer.
Even sold it once and ended up buying it back 10-12 years later.headscratchdunno

Should start that thread by the first of the year.

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Keep fitting, re-fitting and re-fitting again.

L/f Fender and Door.

R/side Fender was already on and removed to refit door.

Baby Steps, Plan to fire motor on Wednesday.

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Ok, R/F fender on this weekend.  Fits are improving, we keep tweaking.

Fairly pleased with r/side, left needs more hugging.

Did I say I despise fitting doors and fenders on this body style.?

Still having fun even though these can be a pain.

Fired motor Wednesday before Christmas, Roger broke in Cam and played with timing, have a vacuum issue to figure out.

Great oil pressure, no oil or antifreeze sprinklers either.

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Scrap doorsbeers

Trying to prove I am not a total hoarder, and am capable of letting some things go.nana

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I'll take the hinges, if they are going to scrap !!!!

Right side looks great...move along...razz



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Hinge bolts are frozen in. Soaked them, still stuck, too lazy to heat from inside at mount plates.
I try to avoid any open flames inside building.
Uppers are nice and tight, lowers pretty decent too.
A couple of the tapered Philips bolts were replaced with hex heads at some point.

I have multiples in stock, so I did not try very hard.
At this stage, not planning any other 1966 builds, too many others "in the que"

They are yours if you like.thumbsup

Karltiphat



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Eh, I could maybe get the bolts loose with my electromagnetic heater. If you are planning to take them to the shop for pickup soon, go ahead. If they are going to sit around there for a while yet, I could run down one day soon and attempt to get them off.

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We can figure that out later, they are waiting for the Dumpster to arrive this spring.
NO rush.

Going to bring another dumpster in to deal with misc. metals and "send away" at least one Suburban this summer.

You can try my torch if you want, when you stop by next time. (outside)

Karl



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